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Post by outlaw99 on Mar 6, 2022 18:32:35 GMT
It’s quiet in here. So I was pulling some traps out of some heavy gumbo type soil yesterday. It reminded me why I prefer wire levers on traps for this very reason.
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Post by trapperles on Mar 6, 2022 20:29:16 GMT
I Haven't given that a lot of thought, the only ones I have are SVS #4s (easy to set) and I have not found a reason to dislike them, and my CDR7.5s, hard to set without setters, unless you stand on them, and those are a great trap.New springs would be nice on some of those.
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Post by outlaw99 on Mar 7, 2022 0:39:08 GMT
Les, I like those SVS #4’s as well. I’d like a #2 size though when I’m chipping out frozen trap beds in late winter. I need to mess with them some more; but the ones I’ve messed with have caught and held just fine.
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Post by boone on Mar 7, 2022 20:20:18 GMT
Don’t matter to me.
I gots the coal shale surrounding em!
I hate setting wire levers. Especially when it’s wet.
Of course, setting 50-60 four coiled flavors of anything gets awful old after a couple days.
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Post by boone on Mar 7, 2022 20:21:41 GMT
Those SVS’s have an awful lot of flex to the “lever” at lock up for my taste.
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Post by bfflobo on Mar 7, 2022 20:55:38 GMT
Never found a wire levered trap that would pass the screwdriver test. Haven't messed with them all. The bigger, heavier ones probably won't pass either but will hold just out of weight, mass and power. White man crazy, no tune up little engine, just put bigger one in and spin tires.
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Post by outlaw99 on Mar 7, 2022 22:34:40 GMT
Boone, I responded and txt you on those Montanas, if you’re interested, let me know, or I’m gonna list them. The SVS also have a lot of pan slop out of the box. I thought they were going to be the cats ass when Carlis first put some pics of em out. I like em alight, but they’re not the end all trap for me.
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Post by boone on Mar 8, 2022 2:04:28 GMT
Boone, I responded and txt you on those Montanas, if you’re interested, let me know, or I’m gonna list them. The SVS also have a lot of pan slop out of the box. I thought they were going to be the cats ass when Carlis first put some pics of em out. I like em alight, but they’re not the end all trap for me. I pmd you.
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Post by outlaw99 on Mar 8, 2022 3:40:56 GMT
How about Tom Beaudetes coyote cuffs? They’re a solid well built trap, but it’s a shame he doesn’t just put a stainless dog on them to begin with. The offset is too wide as well in my opinion.
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Post by trapperles on Mar 8, 2022 7:12:57 GMT
I think Tom's trap, has quite a low pan, works better in dry sandier locales. I havent tried one yet, but played with them at his booth
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Post by USMC47 on Mar 11, 2022 15:54:08 GMT
It’s quiet in here. So I was pulling some traps out of some heavy gumbo type soil yesterday. It reminded me why I prefer wire levers on traps for this very reason. Amen, Nick. I lost a Jake trap last season because the cows mashed it in the mud. It was so gone I thought maybe it was stolen. This year I saw a little piece of metal sticking up. It looked like a piece of #9 wire for a snare and since I was near a fence I figured I’d yank it. It was my Jake trap!
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Post by outlaw99 on Mar 11, 2022 17:59:51 GMT
Good find John! I’ll probably catch hell for this, but I had a few Jakes and I didn’t really like them in my country. They’re a solid trap and sure to catch and hold critters. My 1st issue was just their size in general. When the ground gets froze here, I hated trying to chip out a trap bed big enough get the, buried….pure laziness on my part lol. My other issue was the trigger system. It’s genius and well designed, but 90% of our dirt is a heavy clay gumbo. I had a heck of a time after a catch with the trigger system getting plugged up with frozen gumbo. It was like trying to scrape out frozen concrete to get them clean enough to reset. Once again, pure laziness on my part. I think everything JC makes is superb; but the Jakes just weren’t for me.
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Post by boone on Mar 12, 2022 16:04:48 GMT
It’s genius and well designed, but 90% of our dirt is a heavy clay gumbo. I had a heck of a time after a catch with the trigger system getting plugged up with frozen gumbo. It was like trying to scrape out frozen concrete to get them clean enough to reset. Once again, pure laziness on my part. I think everything JC makes is superb; but the Jakes just weren’t for me. Same as on the Bridger dogless, no BS, etc. I hate that pan/trigger design. Ran 18 Bridger dogless through a wet, cold cycle. Every trap had to be brought home after a catch, thawed out and cleaned out just to set again. Pain in the ass.
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Post by outlaw99 on Mar 12, 2022 17:11:38 GMT
It’s genius and well designed, but 90% of our dirt is a heavy clay gumbo. I had a heck of a time after a catch with the trigger system getting plugged up with frozen gumbo. It was like trying to scrape out frozen concrete to get them clean enough to reset. Once again, pure laziness on my part. I think everything JC makes is superb; but the Jakes just weren’t for me. Same as on the Bridger dogless, no BS, etc. I hate that pan/trigger design. Ran 18 Bridger dogless through a wet, cold cycle. Every trap had to be brought home after a catch, thawed out and cleaned out just to set again. Pain in the ass. exactly my experience as well. I didn’t realize that the new duke dogless #2 are literally the exact same design as the Bridget’s as well. I may get serious about messing with those SVS #4’s a little more. There’s a lot I do like about them. One thing that annoys me out of the shoot is the pan slop. I’ll mess with them and tighten em up. If I had cats worth trapping, I think it’d be a real good setup for sure. On the KO no BS, I feel like I could use 2 at a set. One to catch, the other chained to the first to act as a drag. There’s alot of heft and iron in those things.
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Post by bacatrapper on Mar 19, 2022 2:31:25 GMT
I run jakes and coyote cuffs here no problem, although the cuffs I have do not have wire springs, they are circle c's I think. I also have a few no bs extremes, im not fond of them. They lock up so tight on a leg I have to beat the levers loose with my staking hammer to get them unstuck.
I use a triangle file to clean the notches on the jakes.
I still have not set the mj 600's I got from boone. They are sitting in a box in my office.
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